Pod Save America Trump's Secret Plan for a 3rd Term
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Oct 28, 2025 
In this discussion, guest Marc Elias, a prominent election attorney and founder of Democracy Docket, delves into the potential legal risks surrounding Donald Trump's talk of a third term. He asserts there's no constitutional loophole but warns of possible extra-legal tactics. The conversation also covers threats to the 2025 elections and how the DOJ's involvement could be manipulated. Elias emphasizes the need for public activism, civic engagement, and strong defenses to protect democracy against rising intimidation efforts.
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Third-Term Talk Is Political Theater
- Steve Bannon and Trump publicly float a 'third term' to shape perception and scare rivals.
- Hosts caution we must take the threat seriously but not grant it undue inevitability.
Say 'He Won't Succeed' To Preserve Norms
- The panel argues Trump may try but likely won't succeed because constitutional and institutional limits remain.
- They stress saying 'he will not be president in 2029' helps maintain democratic confidence.
The Real Threat Is Extra‑Legal Action
- Marc Elias warns the real threat is violent or extra-constitutional action, not a legal loophole.
- He highlights January 6 as precedent for taking threats beyond legal channels seriously.