The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Sridhar Ramaswamy to talk about the problem with search engines (3:45), leaving Google (6:15), where Google went wrong (10:30), on whether people actually care about privacy (14:00), why the government's antitrust suit doesn’t help (19:00), how you build a search engine without the resources of Google (21:45), the importance of the cloud (25:45), the challenge of going from free to paid (28:30), how his former colleagues reacted (31:00), and what keeps him up at night (35:10). PLUS, Miami mayor Francis Suarez comes on to talk about Miami’s moment (35:45), that tweet (37:40), the Covid factor (39:00), why he thinks he’ll succeed his city can rival Austin as America's second tech hub (41:50), how low taxes help (44:30), and telling the story (50:00).