Hub Podcasts David Frum: Israel's strike against Iran and its global fallout
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Jun 19, 2025 
David Frum, a leading author, journalist, and thinker, joins Sean Speer to dissect Israel's strike against Iran and its implications for the region and North America. They delve into the effectiveness of Israel's military actions and the shifting dynamics of Middle Eastern alliances. Frum addresses the historical context of U.S.-Iran relations and challenges the notion of 'good' versus 'bad' in conflicts, emphasizing the complexities and human suffering involved. Their conversation also critiques the idea of societal decline, highlighting the importance of agency in shaping the future.
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Unexpected Success of Israel's Strike
- Israel's strike on Iran defied expectations by achieving significant dominance early on.
- Conventional wisdom about the difficulty and cost of striking Iran's capabilities proved incorrect thus far.
Flawed Western Iran Paradigms
- Western approaches to Iran have oscillated between naive hope for cooperation and unrealistic regime change.
- Both paradigms have failed to capture Iran's complex hostility and societal dynamics.
Risks of Premature De-escalation
- Calls for de-escalation during this conflict risk leaving Iran's nuclear program intact.
- True de-escalation requires decisively seeing the current conflict through to prevent greater future war.
