In this episode, Marie Potel-Saville joins me to shed light on the widespread issue of dark patterns in design. With her background in law, Marie founded the 'FairPatterns' project with her award-winning privacy and innovation studio, Amurabi, to detect and fix large-scale dark patterns. Throughout our conversation, we discuss the different types of dark patterns, why it is crucial for businesses to prevent them from being coded into their websites and apps, and how designers can ensure that they are designing fair patterns in their projects.

Dark patterns are interfaces that deceive or manipulate users into unintended actions by exploiting cognitive biases inherent in decision-making processes. Marie explains how dark patterns are harmful to our economic and democratic models, their negative impact on individual agency, and the ways that FairPatterns provides countermeasures and safeguards against the exploitation of people's cognitive biases. She also shares tips for designers and developers for designing and architecting fair patterns.

Topics Covered:

Why Marie shifted her career path from practicing law to deploying and lecturing on Legal UX design & combatting Dark Patterns at Amurabi
The definition of ‘Dark Patterns’ and the difference between them and ‘deceptive patterns’
What motivated Marie to found FairPatterns.com and her science-based methodology to combat dark patterns
The importance of decision making governance
Why execs should care about preventing dark patterns from being coded into their websites, apps, & interfaces
How dark patterns exploit our cognitive biases to our detriment
What global laws say about dark patterns
How dark patterns create structural risks for our economies & democratic models
How "Fair Patterns" serve as countermeasures to Dark Patterns
The 7 categories of Dark Patterns in UX design & associated countermeasures
Advice for designers & developers to ensure that they design & architect Fair Patterns when building products & features
How companies can boost sales & gain trust with Fair Patterns
Resources to learn more about Dark Patterns & countermeasures

Guest Info:

Connect with Marie on LinkedIn
Learn more about Amurabi
Check out FairPatterns.com

Resources Mentioned:

Learn about the 7 Stages of Action Model
Take FairPattern's course: Dark Patterns 101
Read Deceptive Design Patterns
Listen to FairPatterns' Fighting Dar

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S3E11: 'Decision-Making Governance & Design: Combating Dark Patterns with Fair Patterns' with Marie Potel-Saville (Amurabi & FairPatterns)