This week on Who We Are Now with Richard and Izzy Hammond they're joined by ex-supermodel, entrepreneur and race car drive Jodie Kidd. With quite the height difference between them, they discuss what it's like to exist just slightly outside the physical norms height wise, how modelling is not all it's cracked up to be, and exactly how and when to play the girl card.

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