Serious Trouble

Sandwiches For All

Nov 14, 2025
A sandwich-throwing incident leads to a surprising jury acquittal, raising questions about jury nullification and justice. The podcast explores procedural issues in the Comey case and the challenges facing the Justice Department, from staffing shortages to prioritizing simpler prosecutions. Listeners also hear about Fannie Mae investigations and Bill Pulte's controversial political accountability efforts. The hosts dissect these intriguing topics, leaving you with plenty to ponder.
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ANECDOTE

Sandwich Toss And The Overreach

  • Sean Dunn threw a sandwich at a Border Patrol agent during a protest and later theatrically ran away while agents chased him.
  • The grand jury declined a felony and he was tried on a misdemeanor and acquitted after a jury found the prosecution overreached.
INSIGHT

How Juries Mask Nullification

  • Juries avoid explicitly saying they are nullifying and instead find legal gaps to justify acquittals.
  • Ken White argues the Dunn verdict reflects a jury acting as a bulwark against prosecutorial overreach.
ADVICE

Expect Process As Punishment

  • Expect low-level physical confrontations like a sandwich toss to usually end with an on-scene arrest and prosecutors declining charges.
  • Understand that the state often punishes through process even when formal charges don't stick.
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