This episode represents the 2nd interview with Joe Hurt of RLH Construction.  Joe discusses some of the challenges and opportunities of an established ESOP.  A few years into their ESOP, RLH Construction has experienced very strong results from the ESOP.  Joe is the CEO of the company and has worked through issues such as leadership transition, retiring a large portion of the initial senior debt, managing bonding issues, as well as a myriad of other specifics.  For Joe and his team, the ESOP has been a tremendously valuable took to strengthen their efforts in the industry and has helped the company reach new heights.