Martin sits down with Ruth Jackson, former editor at Premier Youth and Children's Work magazine and current presenter and producer of Unbelievable? apologetics radio show and podcast. They discuss the relevance of apologetics in today's age and how you as a youth worker should respond to the challenging question of suffering.
Meanwhile, Rachel and Martin update us on the latest exploits with their dogs, and Rachel pitches her new idea for something called "The Guilty Youth Worker".
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