In this episode, I am joined by American Gospel director Brandon Kimber to analyze troubling comments made by Jenn Johnson of Bethel Church.

Jenn Johnson has described the Holy Spirit as the “blue genie from Aladdin”—and this wasn’t just a one-time slip. We demonstrate how she has repeated this imagery more than once, while also promoting concerning views on the Bible and truth itself. Claiming that Scripture has contradictions, she has taught that truth is relative, like “shades of grey.” Even more troubling, her methodology for knowing God is subjective—teaching that Christians must each ask God who He is to them personally, as if His nature shifts from person to person rather than being revealed once for all in His Word.

We also analyze the audio of Michael Brown asking Bill Johnson directly about these “blue genie” comments. What we find is not repentance, but damage control. And even today, the original videos of Jenn Johnson making these statements remain live on Bethel TV.

We unpack why this matters, how these ideas directly conflict with the historic Christian gospel, and why believers must remain anchored in the unchanging Truth of God’s Word.

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00:00 Start

06:13 What is NAR?

09:45 Context of the blue genie comments

13:41 First blue genie clip

19:42 Johnson's comments on nature of God

31:44 Undermining Truth

37:53 Bethel's view of Old and New Testaments

43:00 Bethel's culture of humor

48:03 Johnson's comments on contradictory Scripture

58:21 Michael Brown asking Bill Johnson about blue genie comments

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