‘Echo’ Is Another Marvel TV Miss. Plus, ‘White Lotus’ Season 3 Casting and the ‘Mandalorian’ Movie.
Jan 11, 2024
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Carrie Coon and Parker Posey are cast in the next season of ‘White Lotus’. The hosts discuss the possibility of a Mandalorian movie and its impact on a potential Season 4. They also dive into the struggles faced by the new Marvel TV show ‘Echo’ in setting the right tone.
Marvel struggles to strike the right tone in the show Echo, with heavy-handed storytelling and lack of cohesion.
Marvel should focus on standalone series rather than trying to tie in multiple characters and storylines.
Deep dives
Echo: A Confounding and Burdensome Marvel Show
The podcast hosts express their disappointment and confusion with the Marvel show Echo, highlighting its heavy-handed storytelling, convoluted narrative structure, and lack of cohesive tone. They discuss the struggles Marvel has faced in finding the right balance between standalone stories and interconnected universe storytelling. Despite the talented cast and visually impressive action scenes, the show feels burdened by its attempt to tie in multiple characters and storylines. The hosts question the viability of episodic series that simultaneously serve as prequels, sequels, and spin-offs, and suggest that Marvel should focus on standalone series and separate movies for better creative and financial results.
Echo's Incoherent Narrative and Tonal Issues
The hosts delve into the incoherent narrative structure and tonal issues in the Marvel show Echo. They point out that the first episode, which attempts to recap the entire life story of the main character, Echo, feels like a collection of footage from other shows and flashbacks. They discuss the challenges of juggling multiple characters and storylines and suggest that Marvel should focus on standalone series with simpler, more focused storytelling. The hosts express that, while the production value and cast performances are commendable, the overall execution of Echo falls flat due to its heavy-handed exposition and lack of a cohesive tone.
Marvel's Experiment with Echo Falls Short
The hosts share their disappointment with the Marvel show Echo, highlighting its confused narrative structure and lack of tonal clarity. They discuss the challenges Marvel faces in balancing interconnected storytelling and standalone series. The hosts suggest that the show's attempt to retcon and connect to other Marvel properties distracts from the character-focused storytelling that could have made Echo a compelling series. They acknowledge the talent of the cast and the efforts made to honor Native culture but assert that the show ultimately misses the mark and may be a sign that Marvel needs to reevaluate its approach to expanding its universe.
Chris and Andy talk about the news that among others, Carrie Coon and Parker Posey have been cast in the next season of ‘White Lotus’ (1:00). Then they talk about the news that there will be a ‘Mandalorian’ movie and what that means for a potential Season 4 of the show (23:36). Finally, they discuss the newest Marvel TV show, ‘Echo,’ and how—like many other Marvel shows before it—it struggles to strike the right tone (34:51).