This week’s guest calls himself a thorn in the side of the resilience industry. He doesn’t believe in documented plans, leveraging Mike Tyson’s quote – “Everybody has a plan until you get punched in the face.”   Simply put, heeees baaaack!

Hello everyone and welcome to episode 158 of the Resilient Journey podcast, presented by the Resilience Think Tank.

This week, resilience antagonist Mark Armour joins the podcast to talk about how to prepare and empower organizations without using documented business continuity plans. He believes organizations can have a great deal of capability without a plan. For him, our industry focuses too much on documentation and not enough on capability.

Mark and Mark talk about the difference between plans and planning.  And they discuss the difference between capability and compliance.

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