Justine Bateman, a talented writer, director, and consultant involved in SAG-AFTRA negotiations, joins the discussion on the fascinating relationship between AI and the entertainment industry. They explore Lionsgate's partnership with Runway to enhance movie-making efficiency and Meta's controversial contracts with celebrities for AI voice usage. Bateman raises concerns about copyright and ownership in this evolving landscape, advocating for responsible practices while discussing her initiative, Credo 23, aimed at creating films without AI.
Lionsgate's deal with AI company Runway raises serious ethical concerns regarding the potential loss of artistic integrity in filmmaking.
Meta's celebrity voice agreements, while potentially lucrative, may threaten actors' control over their likeness and future representations in AI.
Deep dives
AI Legislation in California
California recently passed laws aimed at regulating the use of artificial intelligence in response to concerns from the entertainment industry. These laws require social media platforms to label or ban deepfakes and mandate consent from performers when creating deepfakes that utilize their likeness, even posthumously. However, critics argue that these regulations are limited, particularly as they only cover advertising and don't extend to entertainment media. The effectiveness of these laws is further questioned as they appear to have loopholes that may leave significant gaps in protection.
Hollywood's Deal with AI Companies
Lionsgate has entered into a controversial agreement with AI company Runway, allowing the company to use selected films for developing a tool aimed at creating cost-efficient content. This deal raises concerns about the future of filmmaking, as it could potentially simplify and automate creative processes like storyboarding. Critics argue that such practices may undermine the artistic integrity of film production and open the door for widespread use of AI in ways that could diminish original content. The notion of capital-efficient content creation is appealing to investors but poses ethical questions regarding creativity in the entertainment sector.
Stars Engaging with AI
Meta has secured voice deals with high-profile celebrities, enabling them to provide their voices for new AI chatbots. These agreements are being supported by SAG-AFTRA, which aims to ensure that its members are compensated fairly for their likenesses. While some view these deals as potentially beneficial and lucrative for the actors, concerns arise about the long-term implications, such as loss of control over their voices and how they may be represented. There is a fear that these technologies could lead to misuse, where actors' voices are generated in ways that they did not consent to.
Pessimism About AI's Impact on Filmmaking
Justine Bateman expresses a strong pessimistic outlook concerning the use of AI in filmmaking, claiming it fundamentally detracts from the integrity of the profession. She believes that AI cannot generate genuinely new content but rather rehashes existing material into something that lacks originality. Furthermore, she stresses that the technology's very foundation is illegitimate, given it relies on materials created without proper permissions. Bateman advocates for a filmmaking approach that prioritizes human creativity and integrity over the conveniences offered by AI.
Matt is joined by Justine Bateman—writer, director, producer, and SAG-AFTRA negotiation committee consultant on the use of AI— to check in on the latest developments on AI in entertainment. They discuss Lionsgate’s new deal with AI company Runway to make movies and shows more efficiently, Meta’s new deal with celebrities to voice a new AI chatbot, and whether other studios will follow suit (02:24). Matt finishes the show with two opening weekend box office predictions for 'Megalopolis' and the animated film ‘The Wild Robot’ (26:03).
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