Pluribus: The Official Podcast

S1E7: The Gap

Dec 12, 2025
Jenn Carroll, a talented writer and co-executive producer, joins director Adam Bernstein and actor Carlos-Manuel Vesga. They delve into Carol's emotional journey illustrated through powerful montages and music choices. Bernstein shares insights on location scouting in New Mexico and the Canary Islands, while Vesga reflects on his experiences filming and connecting with local fans. They discuss the terrifying chunga palms and thematic contrasts of material abundance vs. inner purpose, making for a riveting exploration of storytelling and production challenges.
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INSIGHT

Silence Breeds Self-Song

  • Prolonged isolation drives people to fill silence with song or invented music.
  • Jenn Carroll and Vince Gilligan used Carol's singing to show early-stage psychological unraveling.
ANECDOTE

Filming On Jemez Pueblo

  • The crew shot at Jemez Pueblo and were welcomed by tribal elders and prayers during the tech scout.
  • The tribe provided background actors and local support while limiting photography in sacred areas.
INSIGHT

One Island, Many Countries

  • The episode split shooting between New Mexico and the Canary Islands to represent varied South American locales.
  • Adam Bernstein and the production used the islands' diverse microclimates to mimic multiple countries in one shoot window.
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