Dwarkesh Podcast Satya Nadella — Microsoft’s AGI plan & quantum breakthrough
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Feb 19, 2025 
Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft and a leader in AI and cloud computing, shares his insights on the future of technology. He discusses why he doesn't believe in Artificial General Intelligence but is optimistic about a 10% economic growth. Nadella unveils Microsoft's quantum breakthrough and how AI can revolutionize gaming with the Muse model. The conversation also touches on the evolving landscape of legal frameworks for AI and the decreasing costs of intelligence, stressing the importance of human dignity in future labor.
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Satya Nadella's AI Workflow
- Satya Nadella uses Copilot to prepare for meetings by summarizing topics and generating podcast-style conversations.
- He then shares these summaries with his team using Microsoft Pages, demonstrating a new workflow.
Quantum Breakthrough
- Microsoft's quantum breakthrough involves creating topological qubits, which are more reliable due to their physical properties.
- This is compared to the transistor moment, potentially enabling a million-qubit quantum computer on a small chip.
Muse: AI Game Generation
- Microsoft's "Muse" model uses gameplay data to generate consistent and diverse game worlds adaptable to user modifications.
- This model responds to real-time input, marking a significant advancement in AI-driven game generation.