Ronan talks to Jamie Bartlett the Director of the Centre for the Analysis of Social Media at the think-tank Demos who is speaking at the DataSolutions Secure Computing Forum taking place later this week. Jamie talks about his background, what has changed since his excellent BBC2 documentary series The Secrets of Silicon Valley aired 2 years ago, if another Cambridge Analytica story could happen, and if we can do anything to ensure that social media is not used for nefarious means. Jamie also talks about where surveillance technologies will go over the next 5 years, and what he will be taking about at this weeks DataSolutions Secure Computing Forum.