Pod Save America The Making of America's Most Prominent Anti-Vaxxer
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Dec 7, 2025 
Michael Scherer, a staff writer at The Atlantic, dives deep into the controversial journey of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., once a promising Democratic figure who morphed into a prominent anti-vaccine advocate. Scherer shares insights from his extensive interviews with Kennedy, revealing personal struggles, political shifts, and the curious alliance with Trump. The conversation touches on the decline of scientific discourse, RFK Jr.'s specific health policies, and the repercussions for trust in public health. A compelling portrait of a figure steeped in paradox and political opportunism.
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From Environmental Democrat To Anti‑Vaccine Powerbroker
- RFK Jr. transformed from a mainstream Democratic environmental lawyer into a leading anti-vaccine figure through opportunism and a drive to reshape medical policy.
- Michael Scherer argues personal ambition and willingness to lose his old constituencies explain the political and ideological shift.
Environmental Litigation Framed His Vaccine Crusade
- RFK Jr.'s environmental battles against contamination primed him to see pharmaceutical companies as polluters harming children.
- That legal framing morphed into a conspiratorial worldview targeting institutions and industry practices.
Mixing Fringe Claims With Broad Health Grievances
- Scherer notes RFK Jr. combined fringe vaccine claims with broadly shared critiques of the medical system to broaden his appeal.
- That fusion lets him attract allies across the political spectrum on issues like pharma advertising and chronic disease care.
