A Note from James:

Miesha Tate—at first, I’ve got to admit, I didn’t know much about UFC or MMA. But Miesha was the World Bantamweight Champion, and she fought Ronda Rousey—probably the most famous female fighter in the sport. I watched one of their fights, and honestly, I don’t know how I’d survive even a quarter of a second.

But the conversation we had wasn’t what I expected. Miesha opened up about the mindset behind championship success, the weight of public expectations, and how depression can still hit even after you’ve reached the top. We talked about how personal growth sometimes means burning down everything and rebuilding. This wasn’t just about fighting—it was about resilience, reinvention, and figuring out what matters when the title belt doesn’t solve your problems.

It was raw, honest, and eye-opening. I look forward to talking with her again.

Episode Description:

What happens when you reach the top of your field—and it still doesn’t fix what’s broken inside?

Former UFC Bantamweight Champion Miesha Tate shares the brutal truth about chasing success, surviving toxic relationships, and rebuilding her life from rock bottom. In this candid conversation, Miesha and James explore the psychology of high performance, the danger of tying self-worth to achievement, and how to know when it's time to walk away—even from something you love.

She tells stories from her early wrestling days to her UFC career, opens up about depression, and explains why learning to fail—and rebuilding—might be the most important skill of all.

What You’ll Learn:

Why reaching your ultimate goal might make you feel worse, not better
The hidden costs of high achievement and fame
How to identify toxic environments and take back control
Why learning to “rebuild your metaphorical home” is essential to resilience
How Miesha used mindset—not just physical training—to fight through adversity

Timestamped Chapters:

[00:00] The Broken Nose That Started It All
[03:00] High School Wrestling with the Boys
[06:00] Early Lessons in Grit and Gender Barriers
[08:00] From Wrestling to MMA: Embracing the Unknown
[11:00] Chasing the Win, Fearing the Loss
[13:00] Building the Metaphorical Home
[17:00] Blood, Grit, and the First Amateur Fight
[21:00] Getting Knocked Out and Coming Back
[27:00] The Problem with Thinking Winning Will Save You
[34:00] Fighting Ronda Rousey: Lessons in Obsession
[39:00] Training for the Unexpected
[45:00] When Success Doesn’t Fix Anything
[50:00] Rock Bottom and a 10-Day Drive to Nowhere
[55:00] Rebuilding from Scratch
[59:00] Miesha’s Life Today: Mindset, Family, and Homesteading

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