
Fight Back with Jake Shields Owen Benjamin and Richard Spencer - Vaccines, the Moon Landing, and Fake Pandas - Fight Back Ep. 137
Dec 27, 2025
In this intriguing discussion, comedian Owen Benjamin shares his journey from mainstream success to independent media, tackling cancel culture and the importance of personal productivity. Political commentator Richard Spencer dives into the controversies surrounding vaccines and moon landing skepticism, proposing that some narratives may be more propaganda than fact. The duo also muse about panda diplomacy and the impact of social manipulation by the CIA, wrapping up with thoughts on culture, sexuality, and the effects of modern drugs.
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Pandas As Diplomatic Tools
- Owen Benjamin jokes that pandas are engineered nonsense animals used for Chinese 'panda diplomacy'.
- He recounts being unable to get close to pandas and claims China 'owns every panda in the world.'
Canceled And Choosing Self-Sufficiency
- Owen describes getting canceled and shifting to building his own platform, milling wood and performing locally.
- He frames cancellation as a push toward family life and independent productivity.
Reflection Pays Better Than Philosophy
- Media that reflects audience biases often outsells deep thinkers because audiences prefer flattering mirrors.
- Richard argues reflectors amplify and monetize audience preconceptions more effectively than philosophers.


