What Donald Trump’s return means for US climate ambition
Jan 18, 2024
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Tom Steyer, a hedge-fund billionaire and climate activist, discusses his transition from fossil fuel investor to climate advocate, the importance of carbon accounting, and the potential impact of Donald Trump's return on US climate ambition. The podcast also explores the role of blended finance in developing countries and the significance of youth turnout in elections for future climate outcomes.
Investing in clean energy and innovative solutions can help transition away from fossil fuels and solve the climate crisis.
Through investments in real estate, adopting sustainable practices can generate financial returns and encourage others to follow suit.
Deep dives
Tom Steyer's Transition from Fossil Fuels to Climate Solutions
Tom Steyer, a former hedge fund manager and environmental activist, discusses his journey from making money with fossil fuel assets to becoming a climate advocate. In 2006, Steyer had a revelation about the urgency of climate change after witnessing its effects firsthand. He divested from fossil fuel assets and started investing in clean energy and innovative solutions. Steyer's investment firm, Galvanized Climate Solutions, focuses on funding startups that can scale up to address global climate challenges. They invest in companies like Regrow, which provides information to consumer packaged goods companies to evaluate and reduce the emissions in their supply chains. They also invest in businesses that aim to reduce emissions in hard-to-abate sectors like concrete and cement production. Overall, Steyer believes that by providing better, cheaper, and faster clean alternatives, we can transition away from fossil fuels and solve the climate crisis.
Galvanized Climate Solutions' Green Real Estate Investments
Galvanized Climate Solutions, headed by Tom Steyer, is taking a unique approach to address climate change by investing in real estate assets. They are purchasing billions of dollars worth of properties like warehouses, manufacturing facilities, and student housing, with the goal of making them more energy efficient. By investing in technologies and upgrades that reduce emissions and increase net operating income, Galvanized aims to demonstrate that transitioning to green real estate can be profitable. They are taking advantage of a potentially favorable market situation where many sellers are forced to sell due to the increased interest rates, creating a supply-demand imbalance. Through their investments in real estate, Galvanized aims to show that adopting sustainable practices can generate financial returns and encourage others in the built environment sector to follow suit.
Measuring Emissions and the Importance of Disclosure
Tom Steyer emphasizes the significance of measuring and disclosing carbon emissions. He believes that accurate carbon accounting is essential for managing and creating policies to address climate change. He applauds initiatives like California's requirement for companies to report their emissions, including scope three emissions. While there may not be strict enforcement mechanisms for false reporting, Steyer argues that the act of measuring and disclosing emissions compels companies to better understand their own emissions profile, which can lead to greater accountability and informed decision-making. He sees this as a crucial step in transitioning away from a fossil fuel economy and toward a sustainable future.
Global Cooperation and Risk in Climate Action
Tom Steyer highlights the importance of global cooperation in addressing the climate crisis. While there are concerns about the potential impact of a second term for former President Donald Trump on climate progress, Steyer argues that the bigger risk lies in the erosion of international collaboration. When the United States takes a backseat or adopts a self-centered approach to climate action, it sends a negative message to other countries and hampers collective efforts. Steyer believes that cooperation between countries, especially the major economies, is crucial to achieving meaningful climate solutions. Acknowledging the historical imbalance of emissions and the disproportionate impact on developing nations, he advocates for sharing the costs of climate action and ensuring that the developing world can actively participate in and benefit from the transition to a sustainable economy.
Tom Steyer is a hedge-fund billionaire who made his money investing in distressed assets, including fossil fuel projects. He’s also an avowed climate activist and a major donor to US politicians seeking to tackle climate change. After a short-lived run for president, Steyer in 2021 set up Galvanize Climate Solutions, a firm that invests in companies and technologies promising emissions reductions this decade. It recently raised $1 billion.
Zero host Akshat Rathi spoke with Steyer at COP28 in December, to ask why he got out of fossil fuels, the consequences of bad carbon accounting, and what the return of Donald Trump would mean for global climate ambitions.
Zero is a production of Bloomberg Green. Our producer is Oscar Boyd and our senior producer is Christine Driscoll. Special thanks to Kira Bindrim, Tiffany Tsoi. Email us at zeropod@bloomberg.net. For more coverage of climate change and solutions, visit https://www.bloomberg.com/green.