Here is my extended interview with Debra Kauble whose story helped Budd Hopkins become the most prominent UFO abduction researcher. Kauble is out with her own book called "Extraordinary Contact: Life Beyond Intruders. 

Here is the promo for that book,

Debra Jordan-Kauble is an “ordinary” woman with a habit of attracting the extraordinary.

After reporting a terrifying anomalous experience to Budd Hopkins—pioneering researcher of alien abduction phenomena—Debra’s life takes a dramatic turn as she becomes the central figure in Hopkins’ best-selling book, Intruders, and in its popular TV adaptation. But while the TV series ended with a clear resolution, Debra’s astonishing story continued in real life.

In Extraordinary Contact, Debra shares with the reader her close-up and personal experiences with UFOs, poltergeists, the afterlife, Electronic Voice Phenomena, premonitions, synchronicities, and non-human entities. Such phenomena are woven throughout the vivid tapestry of Debra’s life—flourishes of the anomalous, offset against an everyday backdrop of factory work, family and friends.

Spanning four decades, Extraordinary Contact is a story of resilience and growth in the face of trauma, tragedy and loss, and an intimate, first-person account of what it means to be a lifelong experiencer of “impossible” phenomena.

https://www.amazon.com/Extraordinary-Contact-Life-Beyond-Intruders-ebook/dp/B097TW9433

Grant Cameron's details

https://linktr.ee/whitehouseufo