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Sondland Says Trump Conditioned White House Meeting on Announcement of Investigations

Nov 20, 2019
Gordon Sondland drops explosive claims about Trump tying a White House meeting to Ukraine's commitment to investigate Burisma and the 2016 election. The discussion delves into the intricacies of the impeachment inquiry, highlighting Rudy Giuliani's influence on U.S.-Ukrainian relations. Conflicting narratives emerge over military aid and the administration’s lack of transparency. Amidst intense political discourse, the podcast captures the polarized climate in America and the growing anticipation surrounding key upcoming testimonies.
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INSIGHT

Sondland's Testimony

  • Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the EU, testified that there was a quid pro quo involving President Trump and Ukraine's president.
  • A White House meeting was conditioned on Ukraine investigating Burisma and the 2016 election.
INSIGHT

Giuliani's Role

  • Sondland claimed Giuliani conveyed Trump's desire for investigations to be announced publicly by Zelensky.
  • These investigations were prerequisites for a White House call and meeting, reflecting Trump's demands.
INSIGHT

Trump's Involvement

  • Sondland's testimony directly links Trump to the quid pro quo.
  • He asserts Giuliani's requests came directly from the president.
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