Sam Goldman interviews Umair Haque, Founder & Editor of Eudaimonia and Co, Bad Words, a book of nights, Leadership in the Age of Rage, and eudaimonia. You can also find him on Medium where he is a top writer in Life, Politics, Culture, Leadership. Follow him on Twitter @UmairH.

This episode was released on the last night of the CPAC conference, shortly after Trump spoke, laying out their strategy to further consolidate their fascist base in the Republican Party and return to power. We can either:

A. Treat the Nazi GOP as a legitimate political party/movement to be compromised, debated, worked with

OR

B. Recognize they are fascist. Have difficult, fruitful dialogue amongst decent people about how to stop fascism

We can’t do both.

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.

Umair Haque: "If you don't call it fascism..."