On Being with Krista Tippett

Joy Harjo — The Hope Portal Ep. 6

Jul 3, 2025
Joy Harjo shares her profound connection to time and heritage, emphasizing the resilience of her community. She introduces the concept of the '200-Year Present,' inviting listeners to reflect on their past and future relationships. The discussion intertwines music and personal history, highlighting how art contributes to hope and justice. Harjo underscores the importance of nurturing future generations and our collective responsibility, all while embracing the nonlinear nature of time and existence. It's a captivating journey through memory and interconnectedness.
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INSIGHT

The Whole of Time Concept

  • Joy Harjo holds a profound awareness of "the whole of time," a view that transcends linear time.
  • This mirrors Einstein's view that past, present, and future interact simultaneously, unlike our usual clocks and calendars.
INSIGHT

Expanding Time Awareness

  • A human mind naturally thinks literally but can grasp other kinds of time through different perspectives.
  • Images like the NASA photo of Earth shift our awareness into a vaster, interconnected sense of time and place.
ANECDOTE

Saxophone as Generational Bridge

  • Joy Harjo's grandmother learned to play saxophone in the early 1900s in their new lands.
  • Joy feels her grandmother when playing the saxophone, connecting generations through music.
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