It's a double helping of Chops – hurray!

In our other episode, Jen chats to journalist Abby Ellin, author of the new book Duped: Double Lives, False Identities, and the Conman I Almost Married. They talk about their own experiences of dealing with con artists, why people lie, and how it impacts those around them.

This episode is part two of our three-part series on fertility, and Mick and Jen catch up with self-titled fat positive fertility coach, Nicola Salmon, to talk about her campaign Fat Fertility Matters and the myths surrounding weight and pregnancy.

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