Joyce Eng joins her old podcast co-host Christopher Rosen as well as Katey to look at the slates for the streamers who are diving into the Oscar race. Most of them, yes, are Netflix titles, and some really promising ones at that. But Apple and Amazon both have intrigue ahead— including one of the biggest wild cards of the season.

Then Katey talks to Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg about their longtime directing partnership and how it led to The Studio, which has 23 Emmy nominations and pulls off the miracle of making the Golden Globes far more beautiful than they are in real life.

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