The Social-Engineer Podcast Ep. 333 - Security Awareness Series - DISC and Pivoting with Shelby Dacko
Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Shelby Dacko. Chris and Shelby delve into the intricacies of social engineering, focusing on the challenges of pivoting during on-site security assessments. Their discussion highlights the importance of adaptability and teamwork in overcoming unexpected obstacles, emphasizing how diverse communication styles can enhance the effectiveness of security operations. [Dec 15, 2025]
00:00 - Intro
00:34 - Shelby Dacko Intro
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelbydacko/
01:18 - Intro Links:
- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/
- Offensive Security Vishing Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/vishing/
- Offensive Security SMiShing Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/
- Offensive Security Phishing Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/smishing/
- Call Back Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/call-back-phishing/
- Adversarial Simulation Services - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/adversarial-simulation/
- Social Engineering Risk Assessments - https://www.social-engineer.com/offensive-security/social-engineering-risk-assessment/
- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/
- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/
03:42 - The Importance of Pivoting
05:42 - DISC
06:59 - A Difference in Planning Styles
10:34 - Strength Through Diversity
12:40 - Over the River...
19:29 - And Through the Woods
20:24 - Being Onsite
21:40 - Pivot! Pivot! Pivot!
24:02 - What if?
25:29 - Stray From the Path
28:25 - Strength In Numbers
29:27 - Playing Into Biases
31:43 - Wrap Up & Outro