What will happen to TPUSA without its fearless leader, Charlie Kirk? Frank sits down with two people who knew him best, Charlie's pastor, Rob McCoy, and his son, Mikey McCoy—Charlie’s close friend and Chief of Staff at TPUSA. Together they discuss how Charlie's vision, faith, and leadership will continue to guide TPUSA even in his absence. During their conversation, they’ll tackle questions like:

What's it like working at TPUSA without Charlie and what gives staff members the most comfort?
What was Charlie's main vision and goal for TPUSA in 2025?
What was it like to work with Charlie 24/7 behind the scenes?
How did Charlie and Mikey first meet and what was so unusual about Mikey's job interview?
How did Rob become Charlie's pastor and why was Charlie first invited to speak at his church?
In what ways did Pastor Rob and Pastor Jack Hibbs help shape Charlie’s spiritual walk and ministry?
What made Charlie so loyal to his friends and colleagues?
How can people help and support TPUSA right now?
Why does Pastor Rob call Charlie "a modern day Moses"?

Charlie wanted to be remembered for his faith above all else—and this episode offers an intimate look at the man behind the movement. You’ll hear personal stories that reveal his heart for the Gospel and the mission that still drives TPUSA today. Tune in to discover how Mikey, Erika Kirk, and the rest of Charlie's amazing team is carrying Charlie’s vision into the future—and how you can be part of it.

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Resources mentioned during the episode:

Donate to CrossExamined.org - https://donor.crossexamined.org/

TPUSA.com - https://tpusa.com/

AmericaFest 2025 - https://www.amfest.com/

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