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Untimely Reflections #34: Gnostic Informant

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Apr 8, 2025

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Gnostic Informant

The Gnostic Informant, a YouTuber specializing in ancient texts and religious philosophy, dives deep into fascinating topics. He argues the Torah's age might be misjudged and discusses Hellenism's impact on Judaism and early Christianity. The conversation reflects on Nietzsche's critique of rationalism and explores the relationship between ancient rituals and modern spirituality. The Gnostic Informant shares his personal journey from Christianity to a unique spiritual path, hinting at his upcoming film project involving a new temple in Greece.

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Old Testament Origins

The Old Testament may be younger than commonly thought, with no mention of key figures like Moses or Abraham before 300 BC.
This challenges the traditional chronology of Western civilization, placing Greek influence before the Old Testament.

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Hellenistic Influence on Christianity

Hellenism significantly influenced both the New Testament and Jewish texts.
This challenges the traditional narrative of Christian heritage.

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The Carpocratians

The Carpocratians, an early Christian sect, venerated Plato, Pythagoras, and Jesus, viewing Jesus as a sage who achieved apotheosis.
They built temples and created images, challenging traditional Jewish prohibitions.

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Homer

Homer's works, including the Iliad and the Odyssey, are foundational texts of ancient Greek literature, shaping Western culture and storytelling.

Old Testament

Various Authors

The Old Testament is composed of several distinct sections: the Pentateuch (the first five books), the Historical Books, the Wisdom Books, and the Prophetic Books. It includes accounts of creation, the early history of humanity, the covenant between God and the Israelites, and the history of the Israelites from their conquest of Canaan to their exile in Babylon. The books were written over several centuries and include various genres such as history, poetry, wisdom literature, and prophecy.

Hesiod

*Theogony* recounts the history of the gods, beginning with the emergence of Chaos, Gaea (Earth), and Eros, and culminates with the triumph of Zeus as the supreme god. It includes genealogies of gods and goddesses and the link between gods and humans. *Works and Days* is a more personal narrative that addresses Hesiod's brother Perses, urging him to abandon his schemes and gain his livelihood through hard work. It describes the five Ages of Man, offers advice on farming and daily life, and includes myths such as Pandora's box.

The birth of tragedy

Friedrich Nietzsche

In this work, Nietzsche discusses the history of the tragic form and introduces the intellectual dichotomy between the Dionysian and the Apollonian. He argues that Greek tragedy arose from the fusion of these elements, with the Apollonian representing measure, restraint, and harmony, and the Dionysian representing unbridled passion. Nietzsche also critiques Socratic rationalism and its impact on Greek tragedy and modern culture, advocating for a rebirth of tragedy inspired by Richard Wagner’s music.

Discourses on Livy

Niccolo Machiavelli

Written by Niccolò Machiavelli in the early 16th century, 'Discourses on Livy' is a three-book commentary on the first ten books of Titus Livy's 'Ab Urbe Condita'. The work examines the founding, maintenance, and protection of the Roman Republic, drawing lessons for modern republics. Machiavelli critiques the failure of his contemporaries to learn from ancient political history and argues for the importance of imitating the political virtues of the ancients. The book discusses various themes, including the role of public and private counsel, the institution of dictatorship, and the impact of religion on statecraft. It is a significant work in political philosophy, emphasizing the practical application of historical examples to contemporary political issues.

The ancient city

Fustel de Coulanges

This book provides a detailed analysis of the ancient city, emphasizing the central role of religion in the formation and governance of ancient Greek and Roman societies. Fustel de Coulanges argues that the domestic religion, centered on ancestor worship, was the foundation of all civic life, influencing family structures, property laws, and the development of city-states. The book chronicles the evolution of these societies, including the impact of social revolutions and the eventual rise of Christianity, which marked a significant shift in the social and political order of the ancient world.

The Republic

Plato

Bibliotheca historica

Diodorus Siculus

The antichrist

Friedrich Nietzsche

Friedrich Nietzsche's "The Antichrist" is a highly critical assessment of Christianity and its influence on Western culture. Nietzsche attacks Christian morality and its values, arguing that they are life-denying and have stifled human potential. He advocates for a revaluation of all values and a rejection of traditional religious beliefs. The book is known for its provocative and often inflammatory language. It's a significant work in understanding Nietzsche's critique of religion and his vision for a new morality. It remains a controversial but influential text.

Saturnalia

Seven Books of the Saturnalia

Macrobius Ambrosius Theodosius

The Saturnalia, written by Macrobius in the early fifth century CE, is a work that consists of an account of discussions held at the house of Vettius Agorius Praetextatus during the holiday of the Saturnalia. It is cast in the form of a dialogue and treats subjects as diverse as the divinity of the Sun, the quirks of human digestion, and the mastery of Virgil in diction, rhetoric, philosophy, and religion. The work is a treasure trove of otherwise unattested Roman lore and has been prized since the Renaissance for its rich content and historical significance.

Jung's Red Book

Carl Jung

Carl Jung's 'Red Book' is a collection of his personal writings, dreams, and visionary experiences, offering insights into his unique psychological theories.

Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks

Friedrich Nietzsche

Marianne Cowan

The use and abuse of history

Gnostic Informant on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/

We discussed the following topics: why the Torah is probably younger than commonly believed; the influence of Hellenism on Judaism as well as the New Testament; the Carpocratians (syncretists of Greek philosophy & Christian religion); the link between Platonism & Christianity; Nietzsche's argument that the Epicureans struggled against "latent Christianity"; Christianity as a hyper-rationalist religion set against the more sophisticated theologies of the pagan world; the possibility that extinguishing the Vestal fires actually brought down the Roman Empire. We also talked about Neal's personal journey through the Christian faith into his own idiosyncratic spirituality, and an attitude that he describes as a balance of Gnosticism & agnosticism; he views a life of Gnosis (knowing) as essentially a life of skepticism in which one demands to know for oneself and reject all inherited dogma. At the end we discuss his upcoming journey to Greece & film project, during which he will interview the group setting up a new temple to Pan in Greece, and the Orthodox figures opposing them.

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