Bryan Thornton, a Partner at PCCP with 26 years of experience, shares insights from his extensive career in real estate investment. He discusses the transformation of PCCP from a California startup to a national firm and emphasizes the critical role of relationships in lending and equity investment. The conversation highlights the shift from traditional banks to private credit, the importance of transparency in partnerships, and how technology is reshaping the industry. Thornton also reflects on how a strong organizational culture drives success and fuels long-term growth.
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Urban Roots Shaped A Career
Bryan's urban curiosity began in childhood and led him to study urban design at Penn.
That early passion directly guided his move into New York real estate after college.
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From Workouts To Being PCCP's First Analyst
Bryan joined PCCP as the firm's first analyst after stints at Victor Capital and Nomura in the 1990s.
His early roles exposed him to workouts, mezzanine debt, CMBS, and public REIT formation.
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What Middle Market Means For PCCP
PCCP defines middle market by economics: average equity $30–35M and loans ~$70M supporting $75–150M deals.
The firm's team is organized by client relationships rather than being product-led across debt and equity.
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Bryan Thornton joins host Brandon Sedloff on The Distribution for a wide-ranging conversation about his 26-year career at PCCP and the evolution of real estate investment management. He shares how his early experiences shaped his passion for urban environments, reflects on PCCP’s growth from a California-focused startup to a national player, and explains why relationships remain central to both lending and equity investing. The discussion covers the shifts in capital markets, the rise of private credit, and how transparency, culture, and technology continue to redefine the industry.
We discuss:
PCCP’s consistent middle-market strategy across debt and equity
The profound shift from bank dominance to private credit in real estate lending
The role of transparency and relationship “alpha” in operator-lender partnerships
How culture and curiosity fuel long-term career growth and organizational success
The impact of technology and data on the future of investment management
This episode offers valuable perspective for anyone navigating the challenges and opportunities in real estate today.
(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:01:32) - Bryan’s career and background
(00:11:44) - The scale of PCCP
(00:14:33) - The state of the industry
(00:19:28) - The relationship between lenders and borrowers
(00:21:10) - PCCP’s equity business
(00:27:52) - The evolution of the markets
(00:31:42) - The relationship between PCCP and her capital partners
(00:33:12) - Culture and leadership
(00:36:07) - Technology impacts on physical assets
(00:42:53) - NAREIM
(00:47:00) - Lessons from staying with one firm for over 25 years
(00:49:54) - Predictions for the next decade