#124 AI is Overrated – Why ThePrimeagen Ripped Out GitHub Copilot Out From His Code Editor
May 17, 2024
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The Primeagen, a software engineer who left Netflix to stream full-time, talks about his journey, love of challenging video games, and thoughts on AI creating more developer jobs. He discusses his transition to live coding, childhood gaming experiences, and the importance of mastering fundamentals over shortcuts in tech.
Transformative moments can lead to significant personal growth and development.
Overcoming past academic obstacles requires dedication and commitment to self-improvement.
Embracing lifestyle changes and personal betterment can lead to a fulfilling life.
Deep programming experience enables quick understanding and implementation of new concepts.
Reliance on AI-driven tools may hinder core programming skill development and growth in the field.
Deep dives
Challenging Childhood Experiences and Transformative Change
Growing up, the speaker describes a challenging childhood marked by struggles with academic focus and personal choices. Despite facing setbacks and apathy in high school and college, a transformative moment later in life led to a significant change. This pivotal moment, which is described as a strong internal feeling, sparked a desire for personal growth and development.
Academic Turnaround and Deep Learning
Following the transformative moment, the speaker experienced a significant positive shift in academic focus and dedication. This led to a commitment to self-improvement, reflecting a newfound willingness to seek academic support and invest time in mastering difficult subjects like math. Through dedicated effort and overcoming past academic obstacles, the speaker demonstrated a remarkable shift in approach and perseverance.
Embracing Personal Changes and Building a Better Future
The journey of personal growth extended to embracing significant lifestyle changes, including overcoming addiction and negative habits. The speaker describes a newfound sense of purpose and a desire to create a meaningful and fulfilling life. This commitment to personal betterment laid the foundation for future successes and a newfound perspective on relationships and family.
Reflections on Transformation and Gratitude
Looking back on the journey of personal transformation, the speaker reflects on the challenges faced and the significant progress made. While acknowledging past struggles and difficulties, there is a sense of gratitude and appreciation for the positive changes and growth experienced. The speaker expresses a deep awareness of the impact of personal choices and the importance of self-improvement.
Using Experience to Drive Projects Forward
The speaker relies heavily on their extensive experience in programming to navigate new projects effortlessly. By laying a strong foundation of knowledge and patterns from spending countless hours coding, they apply this scaffolding to integrate new ideas subconsciously. This experience enables them to quickly grasp and implement new concepts, as seen in their ability to watch a five-minute video on Huffman encoding and immediately translate it into a working program.
Building Software as Intuitive as Walking a Trail
Comparing the act of building software and integrating different software components to walking a trail, the speaker highlights how their deep programming experience allows them to instinctually move through a project without the need for excessive planning or whiteboarding. Just like walking a familiar trail where key points and features are known ahead of time, they approach programming projects with an innate understanding of the path to follow, minimizing the need for conscious deliberation.
Adapting to Rapid Programming Changes
In discussing their live programming sessions, the speaker showcases their ability to adapt quickly to unexpected challenges and errors in the coding process. Through bets and set rules for testing, like three runs only, they demonstrate a high level of flexibility and resilience when faced with coding setbacks, such as needing multiple tries to correct a shifting error. This adaptability stems from their robust coding experience and familiarity with addressing common programming mistakes.
Insights on AI and Programming Tools
While delving into AI and programming tools like Copilot, the speaker reflects on the misconceptions surrounding AI's impact on the labor market. They address their experiences with tools like Copilot, emphasizing a recent decision to discontinue its use due to personal preference. By acknowledging how AI tools shape coding practices and the need for critical evaluation of their effectiveness, the speaker provides valuable insights into the evolving landscape of AI integration in programming.
Reflections on Using Co-Pilot During Beta Testing
The speaker reflects on their experience as an early beta user of Co-Pilot, a tool that offers predictive coding suggestions. They describe Co-Pilot as a sophisticated autocomplete feature that excels in predicting the next set of tokens in coding. Despite its advanced predictions, the speaker realized a dependency on Co-Pilot hindered their true comprehension of programming concepts. They noted a noticeable impact on their ability to independently code and enhance their proficiency when they relied solely on Co-Pilot.
Considerations on AI's Impact on Programming Skills and Job Roles
The discussion shifts towards the broader implications of AI tools like Co-Pilot on programming skills and job roles. The speaker argues that reliance on AI-driven tools may lead to a plateau in skill development, creating a Faustian bargain where users sacrifice learning core programming concepts for convenience. They caution against overestimating the capabilities of current AI tools and emphasize the importance of honing fundamental programming skills to avoid skill atrophy and ensure continued growth in the field.
On this week's episode of the podcast, freeCodeCamp founder Quincy Larson interviews ThePrimeagean. He's a software engineer who streams himself programming. He recently left his job at Netflix to stream full-time.
We talk about: - Prime's journey from his teacher telling him he'll never accomplish anything in life to working as an engineer at one of the most prestigious tech companies. - Prime's love of "Nintendo Hard" video games, and how his love of challenge propelled him to "get good" at coding - What it's like to live stream coding in front of more than 1,000 people for a dozen hours each week - Leaving San Francisco to move his family of 6 to a horse ranch in South Dakota - Prime's thoughts on AI and how he thinks it will actually create more developer jobs than it destroys
I had a blast talking with this guy. Though I don't agree with everything he says, I am right there with him on AI and how it's useful but over-hyped. We'll see what future versions hold and whether a "Moore's Law of AI" is really at work here, or whether it will plateau.
I also agree with Prime that devs need to slow down and improve their foundational skills. There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.
Can you guess what song I'm playing on my bass during the intro? It's from a 1996 rock song.
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Links we talk about during the interview:
- Prime's Twitch, from which his YouTube videos are derived: https://www.twitch.tv/theprimeagen
- Prime's Harpoon library on GitHub, which he talks about maintaining: https://github.com/ThePrimeagen/harpoon
- A speedrun of Battletoads by The Mexican Runner, to show you how "Nintendo Hard" this game really is. 36 minutes is an excellent time for a non-pro speedrunner like Prime to achieve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTPGpA0ha9Y
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