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The DOGE Resistance

Feb 28, 2025
Ryan Mac, a tech reporter at the New York Times and co-author of "Character Limit: How Elon Musk Destroyed Twitter," dives into the turmoil within the U.S. Digital Service following mass resignations over leadership changes. He discusses the challenges of transparency and accountability amidst pressure from new directives. The conversation also covers the political repercussions of these events, the role of social media in shaping public perception, and the looming threat of a government shutdown, all in the shadow of Musk’s influence.
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  • Federal workers at the U.S. Digital Service resigned in protest against management changes from DOGE, expressing concerns over transparency and leadership indifference.
  • Elon Musk's influence over the DOGE initiative has created a climate of fear and disorganization among federal workers, questioning his informal leadership role.

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Protests and Resignations in the U.S. Digital Service

A significant protest occurred within the U.S. Digital Service (USDS) when 21 federal workers resigned in opposition to management changes and directives from the new administration. This group, representing about one-third of the remaining staff, publicly expressed their discontent through a letter addressed to the White House chief of staff and created a website to voice their concerns. Their resignation highlighted transparency issues and dissatisfaction surrounding the shift into the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and its leadership, which they accused of being indifferent to their expertise. The workers positioned themselves as 'builders' in contrast to the 'destroyers' they felt the new administration embodied, emphasizing the perceived disconnect between management and the technologically adept federal workforce.

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