Joan Baez, the folk musician and advocate for non-violent activism, discusses her transition to visual art, the challenges of balancing music and activism, and her experience handing over access to her personal storage unit to documentary filmmakers. She also reflects on her first encounter with Dr. King and the initial perception of her in the folk scene. The podcast concludes with insights on activism, hope, and making a difference in the world.
Joan Baez's commitment to non-violent activism shaped her career as a folk musician, with her songs reflecting her dedication to social and political causes.
Baez's unique drawing style, including drawing upside down, provides her with emotional catharsis and allows her to explore different themes and emotions beyond her conscious control.
Deep dives
Joan Baez's Journey as a Folk Musician and Activist
Joan Baez, a lifelong proponent of non-violent activism, shares her experiences as a folk musician and activist. She speaks about her involvement in the civil rights movement, including her time marching with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. She also discusses her decision to choose an independent record label over a commercial one, reflecting her dedication to the folk music scene. Baez explores how her activism and music intertwined, with her songs often reflecting her commitment to social and political causes. Additionally, she talks about her recent endeavors, such as her book of drawings titled 'Am I Pretty When I Fly,' which showcases her creativity beyond music.
Baez's Unique Drawing Style and the Emotional Catharsis It Provides
Joan Baez discusses her unique drawing style, where she often draws upside down and writes the phrases upside down as well. She explains that this technique allows her to tap into her subconscious and explore different themes and emotions. Baez finds emotional catharsis in her drawings, often reflecting personal experiences and societal issues. She notes that some of her drawings bring her to tears, particularly those depicting animals or marginalized individuals. Baez emphasizes that the drawings come from a place beyond her conscious control, and she prefers not to overanalyze or revise them once they are complete.
Reflecting on Past Choices and Lessons Learned
Joan Baez reflects on the choices she made throughout her career, such as her decision to work with different record labels and her interactions with fellow musicians like Harry Belafonte and Joni Mitchell. She recalls the early days of the folk music scene and the perceived divide between commercial and non-commercial artists. Baez also discusses her documentary and the exploration of her personal storage unit, which contained tapes and memorabilia from her early years. This introspective journey prompted her to reckon with past experiences and capture them in her book and film.
Maintaining Hope and Activism in Challenging Times
When asked about navigating the current state of affairs and finding hope in difficult times, Joan Baez acknowledges the challenges but emphasizes the importance of maintaining a sense of hope and actively engaging in activism. She encourages individuals to practice hope as a discipline, recognizing that social change often requires taking risks and engaging in non-violent civil disobedience. Baez shares her suggestions for getting involved and making a difference, such as supporting causes through donations, raising awareness, and participating in peaceful demonstrations. She stresses the value of collective action and the powerful impact it can have in effecting change.
Of all the groundbreaking musicians to come out of the ‘60s, few were as engaged socially and politically as Joan Baez. A lifelong proponent of non-violent activism, Joan marched with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and has continued to advocate for non-violent, civil disobedience ever since.
With the release of her debut album in 1960, Joan Baez became the preeminent female folkie. With just her exquisite soprano and her guitar, she reworked classic American folk songs and eventually wrote songs that helped fuel her activism. By the time she helped launch Bob Dylan’s career by inviting him on stage with her in the early ‘60s, Joan was already an international sensation.
In 2019, after a career that spanned nearly six decades, Joan announced she was no longer performing live. In recent years, she’s turned her creative attention to visual art. Her new book of drawings titled “Am I Pretty When I Fly” features sketches rooted in humor, freedom, and sorrow. But, in classic Joan Baez style, her drawings defy convention—they were all drawn upside down.
On today’s episode you’ll hear a live conversation Justin Richmond had with Joan Baez at the Chicago Humanities Festival in May. Joan spoke about the emotional catharsis she finds in drawing. She also talked about juggling music and activism as a young artist, and what happened when she handed over access to her personal storage unit to a group of documentary filmmakers who are making a movie about her life. And despite giving up live performance, she took a moment to serenade the crowd all with her beloved voice.
You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Joan Baez songs HERE.