As momentum builds up towards COP28 that will take place in the UAE, we discuss with Robert Stavins,  A.J. Meyer Professor of Energy & Economic Development, at the Harvard Kennedy School, on the realities of climate talks, and what could take centrestage, and the progress of the loss and damage fund. We also discuss how ASEAN could elevate its voice in climate negotiations. Stavins was in Singapore and gave the inaugural Albert Winsemius Lecture at the Nanyang Technological University. Presenter & Producer: Noelle Lim, Maybank IBG