Mathew Caws, lead singer and primary songwriter of indie rock band Nada Surf, dives into his reflective songwriting roots and the band’s evolution. He shares vivid memories of growing up surrounded by baroque music in Manhattan and how it shaped his artistry. Caws also recounts a memorable performance backing Joey Ramone, and explores socio-political themes in their latest album, "Moon Mirror." Listeners are treated to live performances that showcase the band’s introspective sound and heartfelt lyrics.
Nada Surf's evolution in the indie rock scene is marked by their introspective songwriting, particularly evident in their latest album 'Moon Mirror.'
Matthew Caws attributes his reflective songwriting style to his upbringing in a Baroque music-filled household, which has shaped his melodic sensibilities.
The band creatively experiments with sound layering, utilizing double and triple tracking to enhance their rich, textured aural experience in recordings.
Deep dives
Nada Surf: A New York Band with Roots in Vermont
Nada Surf emerged as a significant player in the indie rock scene, particularly noted for their hit 'Popular,' which gained traction on college radio in the late 90s. The band formed while its members were attending college in Vermont, but they are primarily recognized as a New York City band, with lead singer Matthew Kaz's songwriting reflecting his experiences and surroundings. The band continues to evolve creatively, with their latest album, 'Moon Mirror,' showcasing their introspective lyrical style. This album, now their tenth studio release, exemplifies their enduring ability to connect emotionally with listeners through thoughtful music.
Influence of Classical Music on Songwriting
Matthew Kaz discussed how his upbringing in a household filled with Baroque music influenced his songwriting style. He emphasized the connection between classical instrumentation and his current work, how these early exposures manifest in the melodies he crafts. Kaz mentioned a specific instance where a musician recognized a Baroque influence in his melodies, a compliment he found both surprising and thrilling. This suggests that while his music is rooted in rock, it is enriched by the textures and complexities of classical traditions.
Exploring Themes of Humanity in Lyrics
In the podcast, Kaz elaborated on a song from 'Moon Mirror' that reflects his observations of societal anxiety during politically charged times. He aimed to approach themes of fear and replacement with a sympathetic lens, advocating for understanding and compassion rather than blame. The lyrics address feelings of demographic paranoia, urging listeners to recognize their own value as individuals. This duality allows the song to resonate on multiple levels, exploring personal and societal issues simultaneously.
Crafting the Signature Nada Surf Sound
The band's distinctive sound is achieved through meticulous layering of guitar tracks, a technique Kaz has employed since his teenage years. He revealed his preference for double and triple tracking, likening the resulting harmonies to a 'super nature' of sound. Kaz noted that each recording features multiple instruments all performing the same part, which contributes to their rich, textured aural experience. Their collaborative environment encourages creative experimentation, resulting in a sound that has evolved yet remains true to their roots.
Personal Trials Reflected in Songwriting
Kaz shared a personal story of how a mundane mishap led to reflections on presence and mindfulness, which became the basis for a track on 'Moon Mirror.' While vacuuming, he forgotten a running bath, resulting in a flooded kitchen, which left him feeling frustrated and reflective about his multitasking habits. This incident inspired him to write about focusing on the present moment, a theme that resonates in the song. His experience illustrates how personal life events shape his creative process, infusing meaning into his music.
Indie rock band Nada Surf first hit big on college radio in 1996 with their driving, guitar forward song, “Popular.” The band started playing together four years earlier while attending college in Vermont. But they’re perhaps best known as a New York City band, where their lead singer and primary songwriter, Matthew Caws came of age.
Caws is known as a vulnerable, and often reflective songwriter who tackles everything from social anxiety to politics in his work. Nada Surf’s latest album, Moon Mirror, is the band’s tenth studio album. It's both introspective and at times, and hard hitting.
On today’s episode Bruce Headlam talks to Matthew Caws about growing up on Manhattan’s Upper West Side in a house filled with baroque music, and how he thinks some of the classical instrumentation may have influenced his own writing. Mathew also recalls the time Nada Surf backed up Joey Ramone and played a full Ramones set at Coney Island High. And he performs two songs from Nada Surf’s latest album, Moon Mirror, for us live.
You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Nada Surf songs HERE.