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Nada Surf

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Feb 4, 2025
Mathew Caws, lead singer and primary songwriter of indie rock band Nada Surf, dives into his reflective songwriting roots and the band’s evolution. He shares vivid memories of growing up surrounded by baroque music in Manhattan and how it shaped his artistry. Caws also recounts a memorable performance backing Joey Ramone, and explores socio-political themes in their latest album, "Moon Mirror." Listeners are treated to live performances that showcase the band’s introspective sound and heartfelt lyrics.
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ANECDOTE

New Propeller Origins

  • Matthew Caws began writing "New Propeller" during Trump's first presidential campaign.
  • The song's themes evolved to include AI and societal anxieties about replacement.
INSIGHT

Bridging Divides

  • Caws found that calm conversations can bridge political divides.
  • He emphasizes the importance of feeling heard and letting defenses drop.
ADVICE

Embrace Interpretation

  • Don't be attached to your intended meaning as a songwriter.
  • Embrace diverse interpretations, broadening the song's impact.
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