Journalist Grace Fitzgibbon went through in the space of a year what most people experience in a lifetime. In the throes of a public break-up, she lost her beloved brother Jack in a tragic military training accident. While grieving, she found unexpected love with Jack’s best friend. Now the couple are expecting a baby together.

In this raw and moving conversation, Natarsha Belling and Grace discuss loss, love, and the clarity that comes from tragedy.

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BONUS: Grace Fitzgibbon on grief, heartbreak and hope