Michael Sheen, a versatile actor known for his vivid portrayals, joins Richard Herring for a candid and humorous chat. They dive into the memorable moments from 'The Assembly' and discuss the quirks of playing Chris Tarrant. The conversation takes a turn as they reflect on the complexities of modern parenting. Sheen also shares insights on Nye Bevan's legacy and the challenges of being a not-for-profit actor. Their playful banter touches on the trials of aging and the amusing realities of life in the public eye.
Richard Herring humorously explores the challenges of aging and masculinity, reflecting on physical changes and their emotional impacts on men.
Michael Sheen shares insights from 'The Assembly', emphasizing the importance of authentic dialogue in fostering understanding among diverse perspectives.
The conversation touches on legacy, with Sheen contemplating how public roles shape personal identity and the narratives that define one's life.
Deep dives
Upcoming Live Performances
The episode highlights Richard Herring's upcoming live performances, including four shows at Leicester Square Theatre and one at Y Theatre in Leicester in spring 2025. Additionally, tickets for his tour titled 'Can I Have My Ball Back' are available, with several dates added to the tour schedule. Herring encourages fans to purchase tickets not only for themselves but also as gifts for friends and family, emphasizing the show's appeal as a perfect Christmas present. He mentions that a Birmingham date has been recently added and that there may be more tour dates in the future.
Thoughts on Aging and Male Identity
Herring candidly discusses the themes of aging and masculinity, particularly focusing on the physical changes men experience as they age. He humorously illustrates the gradual decline in vitality, using vivid analogies related to his own experiences with aging, such as hair growth in unexpected places and a decreasing sense of warmth in his body. This exploration leads to reflections on how these physical changes can impact identity and self-esteem, with Herring noting that many men may feel unprepared for such changes. He uses humor to address these serious topics, making them relatable while still prompting listeners to reflect on their own experiences.
Michael Sheen's Insights on 'The Assembly'
The conversation touches on Michael Sheen's recent participation in 'The Assembly,' a captivating show that features neurodivergent individuals asking important questions in a safe space. Sheen describes the experience as moving and humorous, highlighting its raw authenticity as participants share their thoughts openly. He underscores how the show breaks down barriers and encourages genuine communication, providing a refreshing contrast to scripted interviews. Sheen's anecdotes from the show, including amusing interactions and unexpected questions, reveal the significance of honest dialogue in fostering understanding among different perspectives.
Discussion on Recent Projects and Roles
Herring and Sheen delve into Sheen's recent acting roles and projects, reflecting on the emotional impact and challenges of portraying complex characters. Sheen discusses his portrayal of Nye Bevan, the Minister for Health who played a crucial role in establishing the NHS, and the significance of representing such a pivotal figure in British history. Reflecting on the nuanced aspects of Bevan's character, Sheen conveys the importance of capturing vulnerabilities while delivering an impactful performance. The conversation also touches on the transformative power of storytelling and its ability to resonate with audiences, regardless of the medium.
Reflections on Legacy and Public Perception
The discussion shifts toward the concept of legacy, with Sheen contemplating how he will be remembered after his passing. He shares personal insights regarding the pressure to be defined by public roles and the unpredictability of what may become iconic in one's career. Reflecting on historical figures and their complex legacies, Sheen expresses concern about being reduced to a singular narrative, emphasizing the multifaceted nature of human experience. This contemplative segment encourages listeners to consider their own legacies and the narratives that shape public perception over time.
#540 You Must Think I’m a Terrible Flirt - Richard is trying out material for his Oh Shit I’m 60! Show and surprise surprise, it’s all about his fading genitals. His guest is a man who can inhabit the soul of Nye Bevan, but also talk about his dick, Michael Sheen. They discuss the fantastic interview from The Assembly and how it knocks all of Richard’s interviews out of the park, playing Chris Tarrant and the guilt or innocence the coughing major, the dangers of engendering sympathy for the Duke of York and who should have played the role, the Heaven and Hell of being a dad in later life and what being a not-for-profit actor actually means. Another absolute classic episode. Don’t miss it.