Leading Saints Podcast

Should Your Ward Try to Innovate? | An Interview with Roy Zwahlen

Nov 18, 2025
Roy Zwahlen, Chief Strategy Officer at the Eshelman Institute and author of Race to Innovation, dives into how innovation can transform church leadership. He argues that creativity should thrive within local wards and offers five principles to unlock potential among members. Roy shares insights on balancing structural constraints with innovative ideas, empowering diverse perspectives, and the importance of recognizing individual contributions. He also discusses how innovation can deepen discipleship and urges leaders to foster an environment where creativity flourishes.
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INSIGHT

Innovation Is Part Of The Restoration

  • Innovation is part of the Restoration and rooted in ongoing revelation, not just secular novelty.
  • Apply innovation as evolving practices that serve the gospel's mission rather than tech-for-tech's-sake.
INSIGHT

Size Dampens Breakthrough Innovation

  • Larger organizations tend to struggle with breakthrough innovation compared to startups.
  • Local ward autonomy creates space for grassroots innovation despite institutional scale challenges.
ADVICE

Use The Handbook As Your First Constraint

  • Start innovation by reading and using the handbook as your first constraint, then add creative strokes.
  • Use constraints to sharpen focus and unlock practical, principled creativity in your calling.
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