[28:05] An effective training session requires more than just a polished presentation. Today’s guest, Gavin Meikle, DTM, a trainer for 25+ years, unpacks the skills necessary to facilitate learning and deepen one’s training impact. Gavin compares the mindset of a trainer vs. speaker, and reveals his favorite training activities. He also shares hard-fought wisdom on dealing with training challenges like skeptical attendees and unruly participants.