

With this ring: Trump and Putin omit Ukraine
34 snips Feb 13, 2025
Shashank Joshi, Defense editor for The Economist, dives into the implications of the recent phone conversation between Trump and Putin regarding Ukraine, highlighting the sidelining of Ukraine in negotiations and its potential consequences for European security. Emmett Livingstone, Africa correspondent, sheds light on the M23 rebel group's dramatic takeover of Goma in Congo, discussing regional dynamics and the chaos that ensued. The podcast blends politics with a dash of cultural commentary, capturing both global tensions and local conflicts.
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Major Development in Ukraine War
- Trump and Putin's 90-minute call is the biggest development towards ending the Ukraine war since the invasion.
- This opens a significant diplomatic channel with Russia.
Trump and Putin Initiate Talks
- Trump and Putin agreed to immediate talks, forming a negotiating team including Rubio, Waltz, Ratcliffe, and Whitcoff.
- Notably, Trump's Ukraine envoy, Keith Kellogg, wasn't mentioned.
Ukraine and Europe Sidelined
- Ukraine was excluded from the Trump-Putin discussions, raising concerns about the "nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine" mantra.
- Europeans also weren't included, leading to a statement emphasizing the need for their and Ukraine's involvement.