Dan continues the series by talking with former worship director and pastor's kid Joy Vetterlein.

Joy’s Website:

Joy’s Instagram @joyvetterlein

Christian Smith’s Book “The Bible Made Impossible”:

Lisa Miller’s Book “The Spiritual Child”:

Molly Lacroix’s Episode “Un-Shaming Each Part of Ourselves”:

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