CISO Series Podcast

Impressive! Our AI is Approaching “One 9” of Accuracy.

Aug 12, 2025
Kevin Tian, co-founder and CEO of Doppel, discusses the pressing challenges of AI in cybersecurity and the rise of social engineering threats. He emphasizes the need for a security mindset shift in response to AI fraud and the limitations of traditional defenses. Tian shares insights on how to proactively dismantle deception with innovative solutions, highlighting the critical balance between AI capabilities and human oversight. The conversation navigates the evolving landscape of ad fraud, revealing the importance of adaptive strategies to tackle modern threats.
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ANECDOTE

Cleaners Caused A Network Audit Failure

  • Andy recalled failing an audit because cleaners accidentally connected classified and unclassified networks via a whiteboard.
  • The auditor found cables rolled on a whiteboard and failed the facility for mixing networks.
ANECDOTE

Mouse Pad Fixed With A Beating

  • David shared a story of an IT colleague who 'fixed' a broken mouse pad by beating it on the ground.
  • The quick fix amused the team and illustrates practical, if blunt, problem-solving.
INSIGHT

Agentic AI Is A New Paradigm

  • Agentic AI changes the paradigm because models can act autonomously and reason at scale even without task-specific programming.
  • Kevin Tian argues this revolution affects entire stacks, not just security tools.
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