Becoming a CISO means changing a lot of perspectives.  Individual contributors need to learn this, and the CISO is the best one to teach them.  "They're never going to get it!" is a mantra used by both sides of that dialogue, and that is not a solution.  Will and Allan discuss:

- What precepts really are "obvious"

- How does one onboard leadership and business perspectives?

- What should CISOs do to ensure their teams gain those perspectives?

- What can individual contributors do to ensure that they gain those perspectives?

- The value of self-teaching and mentorship

- Beliefs we should get rid of

It's a great conversation!  Ya'll enjoy it!