Election 2024: Ukraine, Russia, and Whether the War Will End
Oct 12, 2024
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Illia Ponomarenko, a Ukrainian journalist and author, shares gripping insights on life amid war. Nina Khrushcheva, great-granddaughter of Nikita Khrushchev, analyzes Russian society's evolution since the conflict began. Célia Belin discusses European security dynamics, while Senator Chris Murphy emphasizes the necessity of U.S. support for Ukraine in the face of shifting political landscapes. Together, they delve into how upcoming U.S. elections could shape the future of the war and transatlantic relations, illustrating the intertwined fates of Ukraine, Russia, and NATO.
The ongoing war in Ukraine highlights the critical importance of U.S. support, which is essential for Ukrainian survival amidst severe military and humanitarian costs.
European leaders fear a possible shift in U.S. foreign policy could undermine NATO's role, prompting nations to enhance their own defense strategies.
Deep dives
The Long Duration and Human Cost of the Ukraine Conflict
The ongoing conflict in Ukraine, which began with Russia's invasion two and a half years ago, has transformed from what was initially thought to be a swift takeover into a prolonged war of attrition. Thousands of lives have been lost, with an estimated one million Russians and Ukrainians killed or wounded. Ukrainians are not only fighting for their sovereignty but also striving to maintain global attention and support amid competing international crises. The heavy toll on civilian life and military forces underscores the urgency of finding solutions to the stalemate and the complexities involved in any potential resolution.
Balancing Expectations from U.S. Assistance
Ukrainians express gratitude for U.S. assistance in their fight against Russian advances, recognizing it as crucial for their survival. However, there is frustration over delays in weapon deliveries and restrictions hindering Ukraine's ability to strike deeper into Russian territory. The complexity of appreciating aid while demanding more highlights the burdens and expectations placed on the Biden administration. As the conflict stretches on, clarity in objectives and strategic support is needed to effectively utilize resources and ensure lasting outcomes.
Perspectives on Potential U.S. Leadership Changes
The perspectives of Ukrainian leaders regarding the upcoming U.S. elections reveal a nuanced outlook on how different presidential candidates might impact their situation. Some Ukrainians perceive potential benefits in a Trump administration due to its unpredictability, despite concerns over his past statements on NATO and support for Ukraine. This contrasts with the desire for a continuation of strategic support under a Harris presidency, while also navigating the complexities of negotiating with Russia. Ultimately, there exists a consensus that whatever the election outcome, maintaining U.S. involvement in European security is critical.
European Concerns About American Foreign Policy
European leaders are increasingly worried about the implications of a potential shift in U.S. foreign policy, particularly regarding NATO and security commitments. Concerns about a 'dormant NATO' strategy, where the U.S. retracts involvement beyond nuclear guarantees, resonate deeply, especially among countries bordering Russia. In response, European nations are devising individual strategies to strengthen their own defense while keeping U.S. support intact. The need for cohesive European security, along with ensuring that NATO retains its significance, remains a pressing priority amidst these uncertainties.
In this special episode of Pod Save the World, Ben looks at how the war in Ukraine will be impacted by a Harris or Trump victory. Speaking to guests from Ukraine, Russia, and Europe, we hear different perspectives on American leadership, the future of the war, and the stakes for Ukrainians, Russians and NATO. Ben is joined by Senator Chris Murphy, Ukrainian journalist Illia Ponomarenko, Nina Krushcheva, Professor of International International Affairs at the New School, and Célia Belin, Senior Policy Fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations.
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