

E15 Max Kalis - Naughty vs Nice: Getting into Corporate Mischief (for good!)
“I always thought that part of my job was to get fired, but for doing something I would be proud of. My job was to push the boundaries with a stick, and if I wasn't getting in trouble, I wasn't sure I'd be fulfilling that.”
Max Kalis
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
- Balancing provocation and irritation: Knowing how and when to challenge the status quo and use provocation to your advantage
- Breaking down intrapreneurship: What it means to be an intrapreneur and the positive and negative connotations the title carries
- Reframing challenges: Strategies for readjusting how you view and respond to perceived risks and challenges to extract value from every situation
- Evolving career stages: The importance of checking in with your own motivations, to realign your values with your work as you grow through time and your career
- Working with boundaries and risk-taking: How to fruitfully set, follow and push boundaries within innovation, and remain trusted by higher ups
Key Links
Max’s Website: https://maxkalis.com/
Llyod’s Banking Group: https://www.lloydsbankinggroup.com/
Design Strategy: https://www.toptal.com/designers/product-design/design-strategy-guide
Jack Teagarden’s A Hundred Years From Today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_TDW8PePGM
AA Serenity Prayer: https://www.hazeldenbettyford.org/articles/the-serenity-prayer
If– Poem by Rudyard Kipling: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46473/if—
Find a 12-step Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting: https://meetings.aa.org.au/near/
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About our guest
Max Kalis (https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxkalis-career-coach/) has 10 years experience working in strategy, culture & experience design. During this time he has mentored countless start ups, colleagues and clients.
He is now employing experience design principles as a Career Coach and Playbook Creator to help athletes and other exceptional people to unlock progress, change and satisfaction in their careers.
About our host
Our host, Chris Hudson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-hudson-7464254/), is a Teacher, Experience Designer and Founder of business transformation coaching & consultancy Company Road (www.companyroad.co)
Chris considers himself incredibly fortunate to have worked with some of the world’s most ambitious and successful companies, including Google, Mercedes-Benz, Accenture (Fjord) and Dulux, to name a small few. He continues to teach with Academy Xi in CX, Product Management, Design Thinking and Service Design and mentors many business leaders internationally.
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