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Brian Brushwood: Why We Fall for Scams

May 21, 2025
Brian Brushwood, an Austin-based magician, podcaster, and professional skeptic, shares insights into the psychology behind scams. He emphasizes that being conned isn't about being stupid; it’s part of being human. The discussion includes fascinating tales from his podcast, including Disney's Epcot vision and Cold War psychic phenomena. Brushwood highlights how media monocultures have influenced truth and the need for evolving skepticism in today's chaotic internet landscape. He also reflects on the interplay between magic, deception, and our psychological vulnerabilities.
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INSIGHT

Magic Tricks Mirror Scams

  • The structure of a magic trick is identical to that of a con or scam.
  • Both lay out elements that lead people to false conclusions, ending in wonder or loss.
ANECDOTE

Epcot's Original Dark Vision

  • Walt Disney's original Epcot was pitched as a totalitarian city with uniform appliances and strict control.
  • Disney's death led to a compromised but delightful theme park, far from his initial vision.
INSIGHT

Houdin French Magic Myth

  • The famed story of Houdin using magic tricks to pacify Algerians was fabricated by old memoir.
  • The myth collapses under historical scrutiny and lacks corroborating evidence.
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