In this episode, Andrew and Bobby talk to theologian Rodney Howsare about leisure, festivity, and work. The conversation covers Josef Pieper’s Leisure: The Basis of Culture, Matthew B. Crawford’s The World Beyond Your Head: How to Flourish in an Age of Distraction, Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business, and Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World.