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Rick Perlstein: The Alternative Is Apocalyptic

Jul 24, 2024
Historian Rick Perlstein discusses the authoritarian ratchet effect in conservatism, the longing for Main Street conservatives, and the GOP's rush towards authoritarianism. Topics include Project 2025, abortion movement, and the rise of Trump.
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  • The modern conservative movement increases in extremism through the 'authoritarian ratchet', driving towards potential totalitarianism.
  • Democrats idealize past Main Street conservatives, while today's GOP veers towards authoritarianism.

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