"We didn't just start reaching out to brands to sponsor us. We waited until we had a decent following to prove we were worth partnering with."

This is from Grindstone's January Creator Interview. Dillan interviews James & Anthony Deveney (@RaidersLostPod), hosts of Raiders of the Lost Podcast—the best TV/film podcast on the internet.

You'll learn: how they diversify their income streams as full-time podcasters, their Patreon tiers, and how they separate their business partnership from their relationship as twin brothers.

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Doin' The Thing is a show for creators and business builders who want to build their thing better and faster. It's hosted by Dillan Taylor—certified life coach, writer, and CEO of Grindstone. He tracks his journey of scaling his first company, tells stories from 2500+ coaching sessions, and interviews creators who are way cooler than he is...to help you grow an audience, make more money, and stay consistent in your work.

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