Play as a tool for connection | Debi John | #013 Mastering Change

This week on Mastering Change, we speak to Debi John – founder of Play Healing CIC and a self-described “play pollinator” – about the science, spirit and social value of play. In the modern digital age where we feel increasingly stressed and overstimulated, play is more important than ever. 

Debi is on a mission to help adults reconnect with creativity, expression and their nervous system through play – as well as bond with children.  

“There’s pressure to be constantly jovial and playful with children, but it can feel fake. And I don’t think children need us to be like that.”  

In this open and honest conversation, Debi breaks down what it means to play and how it isn’t just a parenting technique or a child’s pastime – it’s a vital nervous system state, and an act of self-compassion. 

“Play is that ventral vagal state – the optimum state of performance – that we actually want to be in as adults.” 

We discuss

• Why adults are afraid of play and why that needs to change 
• Why play can feel pressuring, not freeing, especially for parents 
• The difference between forced playfulness and authentic emotional presence 
• How heartbreak, anxiety and creative expression are all linked 
• How “play-fuelling” your life can help you find clarity, calm and connection 
• How comparison kills joy which kills the desire to explore and play 

Whether you’re a parent, practitioner or simply someone feeling disconnected from joy, this episode might just reframe the way you see play – and how you play – forever. 

Moment of Care: This episode discusses sensitive episodes related to trauma, mental health and potential distressing experiences. If you feel triggered at any point, please take a moment to check in with yourself and seek support. 

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