⁠#130 [PART 2]: Masculinity and the revolutionary power of men's groups (ft. William Dawley)⁠

The conversation continues covering why men's support groups work, reason vs. persuasion, the power of listening, why organized religion isn't going anywhere anytime soon, Credentialism vs. Egalitarianism and how the masculine ideal disconnects men from the best part of being human.

We also cover support groups discussing debt as a source for revolutionary change, class as a barrier to intimacy, therapy replacing vulnerability in friendships, male self care, fitness and gym culture.

References:

Hidden Brain podcast - Persuasion Part 1: https://hiddenbrain.org/podcast/persuasion-part-1/

Bowling Alone (book): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Alone

Lindy Effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_effect

A Healed Femur Is the Earliest Sign of True Civilization: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/07/25/femur/

Seven Days At PAH Barcelona (documentary): https://vimeo.com/323297000

David Graeber's debt podcast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05447pc

Triumphs of Experience (book): https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674503816

"The classical economists also believed that the economic stagnation of pre-modern times was due to the fact that all income surplus to basic needs had been squandered by rulers and landlords. Instead of investing in productive facilities, pre-modern rulers had invested in God": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k39Ulh_8efc&t=190s

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